QUIZ. What features do you want? UPD 21 Jun

[garry's waffle]

I was thought about new idea if I remake UA for a REALLY LONG TIME. but modding the game by myself quenched lots of desire.
from the 'water' stroyline, that is impossible. Big Mistake noticed that 'ocean is dead'. and the waters are REALLY VANISHED FROM THE EARTH.

Taer on Black Wadi, Wadi mean river. but there is a desert.
Pirate Islands of Chinese sea, Those rocked hills are 'islands'. so it mean lower part was water area.
No more Tide, Ditto.
Sibuna, the Anubis canyon was built for Black Sect operation area and their nerve center is located in a deep canyon valley 0.8 kilometer below sea level.

You know, the city we fight on UA are plasma-riched pocket zone. That would be impossible to build a large pocket zone as they can revive the ocean.

[leftylink]

from the 'water' stroyline, that is impossible. Big Mistake noticed that 'ocean is dead'. and the waters are REALLY VANISHED FROM THE EARTH.

I beg to differ:

From the Forbidden Readings:

the endless stories of how great it used to be before the domes, when you could breathe the air, eat food grown in the ground, and actually fish something live from out of the seas

Hey, go tell it to the oceans you killed

The implication is that these people know what the seas are, and that they exist (otherwise they would not talk about fishing from them at all). The only thing about them is that there's nothing living in them anymore.

And I would like to see your answers!

You asked for it. Prepare for very long post, filled with not-very-forceful middle-of-the-road agreeing-with-everyone-else opinions.

1. What storyline would you like to see in UA2?
a) The same time (remake)
b) What happened after Parasite City (sequel)
c) What happened before SDU7 (prequel)
d) What would have happened at the same time (another storyline or place).
e) a+b+c - large storyline from SDU 1 to 7+. *
f) Other (describe).

A by itself is lame. Either B or C are workable. E is fine, but there's the question of what to do for the SDU7 era to make it not a rehash of UA1 (maybe look at the battles in other regions?)

2. What places would you like to see in UA2?
a) The same (Europe)
b) Some other (US, Asia, other)
c) Whole earth.
d) Whole earth and more (other planets). *
e) Other (describe).

C would probably be more feasible for people to make. Besides, if we had D, it wouldn't make sense for the plot. If humans have enough spacecraft to be able to wage battle in space, why didn't they just ship everyone off the planet? It's nuked to death anyway, so no point in staying.

And hey... we saw Asia and Africa in Metropolis Dawn.

3. Would you like to see new factions?
a) Definitely. Add new races or factions i.e. Brazil Alliance, UN Defence Initiative (US) or something.
b) Some sub-factions would be nice (like in CnC Generals Zero Hour). e.g. Resistance Defence, Resistance Reconnaissance, Mykonian Parasite (heavy), Myko Storm (light and fast).
c) Some cross-factions would be cool. Like Resistance having Ghorkovs technologies after taking their tech center at east and other resistance having taer techs from south direction.
d) Mix of previous answers. * (a in prequel, b + c in sequel)
e) Nope. Let em stay the same.
f) Other (describe).

E is lame. I don't quite understand C, but maybe that's just me--factions should be unique, not mix and match. I don't know anything about B as I've never played a game with this mechanic. A is a must, of course.

4. Would you like new units and/or buildings?
a) Sure. More is better!
b) No, Resistance already have too much units most of them aren't used anytime.
c) If there would be prequel or sequel - old or new units are essential. e.g. apaches for helicopters and abramses for tanks. * (and a little bit more buildings)
d) Other (describe).

Agree with A. What is the difference between A and C?

5. Secondary fire?
a) Of course! And tertiary too! (For example - tank: 1-gun, 2-guided missile, 3-smoke screen, mgun) *
b) Only if necessary (Helis with AA missiles)
c) Never! Don't touch holy UA gameplay!
d) Other (describe)

A less enthusiastic version of A. Don't go overboard.

6. Water on maps?
a) No water! There should be only dry dead land!
b) Yes water! Let there be lakes and rivers! *
c) Yes water more! Let there be seas and oceans!
a) No water! The only rivers I want to see is of molten steel and blood!
d) Other (describe)

Since we've determined that water hasn't completely disappeared from the Earth, water could be added for some fun. Maybe.

7. Navy?
a) Sure, why not?
b) No. Don't need it. I just can't imagine Host station floating over water and foxes swimming and shooting into oceans to capture underwater sectors. Sheesh. *
c) Underwater missions could be cool. Foxes should run on the bottom and shoot torpedoes!
d) Other (describe)

No strong opinion. Land units wouldn't be able to go into the water though. Or if they did, kill 'em off instantly or something. If they could, *then* that would be odd. Of course, specially designed amphibious vehicles are fine on that front. Meh.

Strategy would be interesting if the mechanic that only the Host Station creates units is kept, because then holding power stations (or equivalent) close to the water and denying the same to your enemies may confer a nice advantage, especially if there is water access to other strategic points.

8. Upgrades?
a) Never! Let it stay the same: shoot at research center and they immediately upgrade some your units.
b) Some new way: you capture sector with research center and they generate research points, which you can spend on your units upgrade.
c) Some other new way: they give you some sort of upgrade (firepower+, armor+) and you spend it on any unit you want.
d) Other (describe) * (b+c)

New resources (in this case, upgrade points = resource) other than the one in UA1 (energy) would be nice, so at least B. I don't get what you mean by B + C, so you need to describe that more. Remember with C that there should probably be caps per unit so someone doesn't make obscene super units or something.

9. Terraforming
a) No. Let it stay the same: destroyable buildings and indestructible mountains.
b) Polygon morphing: explosion holes in ground, ability to flatten mountains etc.
c) Voxel maps! We want total destruction! I want to make underground tunnel to enemy base!
d) Other (describe) * (i like c, but it's hard as hell, so yet b)

Whatever you like.

10. What do you think about this logo?
a) It sucks!
b) It sucks, but better than nothing.
c) Idea is good, but render isn't.
d) Nice!
e) Screw you, Darth, I'm gonna make logo! *

Clever.

11. How can you contribute?
a) I'm coder, and I have some DX10 shaders which i'm gonna send you ri-i-ight n..ever.
b) I'm modeller, and I have all resistance units with high polycount but I lost them, so I'll draw'em again and send here soon.
c) I can draw, I'll send you some concepts.
d) I am good at sitting and thinking stuff. So I'll write complete prequel and sequel stories and plots.
e) Other (describe)

A. I code. I have no experience with game coding though.

12. Why don't you do something of the above?
a) I have hardcore laziness, and never gonna do something.
b) I have much more important stuff to do, than to sit and make stuff for sequel of my favorite game.
c) I didn't know that I was needed! Up and away!!!111
d) I've already done sequel, check in other topic. Oh, admin deleted it.
e) Other (describe)

A less rude version of B. I am busy. I have work and research to do, and during the busy season I have more research.

That's all what i could come up with. I'll add questions later. If you have some questions or ideas about gameplay which I should add here - tell me.

A sequel should also have varied objectives instead of "Destroy all enemies. Capture key sectors. Beam out of level. Lather, rinse, repeat"

[MarcOlle]

4. Would you like new units and/or buildings?
a) Sure. More is better!
b) No, Resistance already have too much units most of them aren't used anytime.
c) If there would be prequel or sequel - old or new units are essential. e.g. apaches for helicopters and abramses for tanks. * (and a little bit more buildings)
d) Other (describe).

Agree with A. What is the difference between A and C?

I believe the difference is the A is to delete some old vehicles snd create a lot new...
And C is to keep all old vehicles and create vehicles only when necessary (like a tank to Sulgogars )

[Darth_Cthulhu]

And I would like to see your answers!

You asked for it. Prepare for very long post, filled with not-very-forceful middle-of-the-road agreeing-with-everyone-else opinions.

And I shall revenge!

3. Would you like to see new factions?
a) Definitely. Add new races or factions i.e. Brazil Alliance, UN Defence Initiative (US) or something.
b) Some sub-factions would be nice (like in CnC Generals Zero Hour). e.g. Resistance Defence, Resistance Reconnaissance, Mykonian Parasite (heavy), Myko Storm (light and fast).
c) Some cross-factions would be cool. Like Resistance having Ghorkovs technologies after taking their tech center at east and other resistance having taer techs from south direction.
d) Mix of previous answers. * (a in prequel, b + c in sequel)
e) Nope. Let em stay the same.
f) Other (describe).

E is lame. I don't quite understand C, but maybe that's just me--factions should be unique, not mix and match. I don't know anything about B as I've never played a game with this mechanic. A is a must, of course.

Let me explain.
Cross-factions is like when you don't simply destroy enemy HS but capture it some way. Thus not only you get bonus (+100 beam gate or something), but enemy technology or unit. It is way harder to do, and enemy may do it before you and get some of that stuff. For example, you didn't have time to capture Taers, and they were captured by ghorkovs, who can make serp rush...
But C is lame. It is not an option for "New factions" question. It is new feature question.
"B" is simple. Instead of having one faction, we multiply it by 4 and introduce 3 more modified sub-factions for each of it. For example: Resistance: ordinary resistance, Defence resistance (which has heavy artillery, cheaper flaks and bigger range for 'em), Recon Resistance (which has lots of light units with big radar range and fast speed) etc.

4. Would you like new units and/or buildings?
a) Sure. More is better!
b) No, Resistance already have too much units most of them aren't used anytime.
c) If there would be prequel or sequel - old or new units are essential. e.g. apaches for helicopters and abramses for tanks. * (and a little bit more buildings)
d) Other (describe).

Agree with A. What is the difference between A and C?

A means there will be 50 more resistance units.
C means there will be no new resistance units. There would be pre-units: abrams instead of Tiger, M113 for weasel, apache for hornet, etc; and in future there would be some new versions of our units)

7. Navy?
a) Sure, why not?
b) No. Don't need it. I just can't imagine Host station floating over water and foxes swimming and shooting into oceans to capture underwater sectors. Sheesh. *
c) Underwater missions could be cool. Foxes should run on the bottom and shoot torpedoes!
d) Other (describe)

No strong opinion. Land units wouldn't be able to go into the water though. Or if they did, kill 'em off instantly or something. If they could, *then* that would be odd. Of course, specially designed amphibious vehicles are fine on that front. Meh.

Strategy would be interesting if the mechanic that only the Host Station creates units is kept, because then holding power stations (or equivalent) close to the water and denying the same to your enemies may confer a nice advantage, especially if there is water access to other strategic points.

Explain that please. I didn't understand that.

8. Upgrades?
a) Never! Let it stay the same: shoot at research center and they immediately upgrade some your units.
b) Some new way: you capture sector with research center and they generate research points, which you can spend on your units upgrade.
c) Some other new way: they give you some sort of upgrade (firepower+, armor+) and you spend it on any unit you want.
d) Other (describe) * (b+c)

New resources (in this case, upgrade points = resource) other than the one in UA1 (energy) would be nice, so at least B. I don't get what you mean by B + C, so you need to describe that more. Remember with C that there should probably be caps per unit so someone doesn't make obscene super units or something.

B+C means you capture sectors with special research centers, and they generate firepower or armor research points. you can remake them so they will research something selected, e.g. only armor. It's just ideas, I didn't decided it seriously.

That's all what i could come up with. I'll add questions later. If you have some questions or ideas about gameplay which I should add here - tell me.

A sequel should also have varied objectives instead of "Destroy all enemies. Capture key sectors. Beam out of level. Lather, rinse, repeat"

Of course. I think there should be more missions that you can't win at first. You try to beam out and capture as much as you can on your way out.
There should be objectives like "Mykonian wiring is crawling to human reservation. Help people evacuate and hold wiring as long as you can" or something like that. It's plot, not gameplay )

[More Dakka]

1. D.

Simply because I feel this would give us the most ground to work with- compared to a prequel or what happened after Parasite city.

Not that either of those options are bad either.

2. B.

The whole earth would be a nice goal to aim for eventually- but it might be better to initially aim for just another area of the world.

Like Australia and the southern areas of Asia perhaps? (Potentially all the way to India)

3. A.

Hopefully at least 1 brand new faction.

4. A.

The other Resistance bases could have easily developed other vehicles rather than what SDU7 got- so definitely.

Especially since- again- it'd be nice if there's 1 new faction.

5. A.

Secondary fire could definitely make things more interesting.

6. C.

Though I suppose this would depend more on the location the game takes place at.

But yes- Water could make things interesting.

7. A.

At the very least amphibious vehicles- though I'm not too sure about water-only vehicles.

They could be interesting though.

8. C.

More player choice is generally a good thing.

9. B.

It'll be interesting to see how far we can go with this- but I'd be fine if we just aimed for craters and such.

10. D.



11. D.

Remember when I mentioned Australia up to southern Asia?

That's cause I just thought of a plot for a Resistance group in that area.

I am very creative overall- so if there's any way I can help- it'd be story-wise. (Since I'm no coder. )

I could help with concepts for Factions and units as well- but I'm not sure how well I'd be able to make images for them. (I do already have an idea for a Faction if you're curious. )

12. C. Possibly soon to be followed by B.

Well- I just learned of this site and the UA2 effort. So...

That- and I DO have college classes coming up- but my semesters generally have left me SOME free time. So I don't think it'll be that big of a deal.

[Zarkkko]

1. What storyline would you like to see in UA2?
b) What happened after Parasite City (sequel)

2. What places would you like to see in UA2?
e) Other (whole world no other planets).

3. Would you like to see new factions?
a) Definitely. Add new races or factions i.e. Brazil Alliance, UN Defence Initiative (US) or something.

4. Would you like new units and/or buildings?
a) Sure. More is better!

5. Secondary fire?
b) Only if necessary (Helis with AA missiles)

6. Water on maps?
d) Other (not much of water, no lakes, no oceans,just rivers)

7. Navy?
b) No. Don't need it. I just can't imagine Host station floating over water and foxes swimming and shooting into oceans to capture underwater sectors. Sheesh. *

8. Upgrades?
a) Never! Let it stay the same: shoot at research center and they immediately upgrade some your units.

9. Terraforming
b) Polygon morphing: explosion holes in ground, ability to flatten mountains etc.


10. What do you think about this logo?
d) Nice!

11. How can you contribute?
e) Other (i can plan but i am not good in computer working i wil send u some pictures of new units and hostations) black sects anvil clas host station was stolen from resistance right? so would be cool if resistance had the anvil host in ua 2...

12. Why don't you do something of the above?
e) Other (i didnt know i was needed and will draw those god d*** pictures of new units )

[Brachy UA FREAK]

1) b/c
2) c make the continets but with other sotry, fight on afirca again because the solgugars are infesting whoel africa
3)b
4)a
5)a
6)a
7)b
8)d You can choose lets say one out of 3 possiblitys to ufpgrade a vehicle: more firepower or enrgy for example...
OR: You can only capture a part of the technology sectors, meaning, during battle you can change with what sectors you take and in the end you can have lets say 3 out of 5 , these 3 are saved

9)b , but not too much terraforming, making an antitank passable for tansk should be 10 minutes of work

10)b
11) c,d,e : i am a mapper in UA 1 so with an special editor i would map 24/7 because i like mapping: Saforsoft Rox: 1000+ maps( 1 map abotu 5-15 minutes of work
) , UA , current project of MID 6+ hours for a map, with screwing again i made like 66 maps already... , also mapping for the mod Zombie PANIC SOURCE! ( 600 hours of mapping have made 5-6 maps so far... you can take a look at the website fps banana : http://www.gamebanana.com/members/903388

12) i have exaclty 0 programming knowgledge...

[Bilo]

I've thinking about some new feature like :

- New buildings (like building with riflefire for resistance Taerkasten and ghorkov. (with mans inside or something seems like this))

- Acid for sulgogar. They need"buildings". For power plant AND anti ground vehicle. 2 in 1

- Maybe another factions. I think the first conflict (Urban assault 1) is a victory, but some other extraterrestrial ethical group want to take the earth's ressources. And maybe some taerkasten's fidels want to be more technologic and this sect is broken on 2 factions. ( Taerkasten fidels and New Taerkasten or something like this)

- Possibility of choose an alliance at one point of evolution of the campaign. (Choose an alliance : Ghokovs, New tarkasten , Taerkasten's fidels, maybe one extraterrestrial faction.)

- New buildings or a vehicle (like scout) for seeing blacksect's vehicle on radar. ( 3 buildings, 1 level : Seeing 33% of black sect vehicle, level 2 66% etc..)

- I think the sector idea is the strongest point of this game keep this technic.

- Urban assault is one of my best game because it's so simple to play. I think we need to keep this simplicity. (For create building, vehicles etc)

- Our host station move like the others host station, like zepplin, not by teleportation. (very important because it's very easy to play with teleportation.)

That's my ideas, what do you think about ?